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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:03 AM

More than 50 years of data show that people with schizophrenia who take antipsychotic drugs lower their risk of relapse, a new study suggests.

Relapse rates were 64% in people not taking medications for schizophrenia, while they were 27% in those who were given them for at least a year. Relapse -- meaning symptoms get worse or come back after a period of improvement -- is a common occurrence in people with schizophrenia.

The study also shows that people treated with these drugs are also less likely to be hospitalized or to behave aggressively or violently.

For this review study, scientists analyzed data from nearly 6,500 people with schizophrenia who participated in 65 research trials published between 1959 and 2011.

Since the evidence spanned more than 50 years, researchers were able to include in the analysis older antipsychotic drugs used to treat the condition, such as Haldol and Thorazine, and newer medications known as atypical antipsychotics, such as Abilify, Clozaril, Fazaclo, and Risperdal.��

The study is published online in The Lancet.
Weighing Risks and Benefits

Schizophrenia is a brain disorder that affects 2.4 million American adults, according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness, most often before the age of 30. Symptoms of this mental illness can include hallucinations, hearing voices, and/or having delusions.

Although the study shows the medications helped prevent relapse and, to some extent, improved the quality of life in people taking them, researchers also found evidence of their negative side effects.

Compared to people taking a placebo, those treated with antipsychotics were more likely to gain weight, have movement disorders, such as tremors or muscle spasms, and feel more sedated.�

Still, "we have established that antipsychotic maintenance treatment substantially reduces relapse risk in all patients with schizophrenia for up to two years of follow-up," the researchers write.

An editorial accompanying the research notes that the average follow-up time to evaluate relapse was 26 weeks. But it says this is "only a fraction of the time patients need support from services."

The editorial suggests this is possibly not long enough to observe other negative consequences from long-term use of antipsychotic drugs. It also says that scientists also need to understand why many patients with schizophrenia relapse even though they are sticking to their drug treatment regimen.


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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:17 AM

View Postfiremonkey, on 03 May 2012 - 06:03 AM, said:

More than 50 years of data show that people with schizophrenia who take antipsychotic drugs lower their risk of relapse, a new study suggests.

Relapse rates were 64% in people not taking medications for schizophrenia, while they were 27% in those who were given them for at least a year. Relapse -- meaning symptoms get worse or come back after a period of improvement -- is a common occurrence in people with schizophrenia.

The study also shows that people treated with these drugs are also less likely to be hospitalized or to behave aggressively or violently.

For this review study, scientists analyzed data from nearly 6,500 people with schizophrenia who participated in 65 research trials published between 1959 and 2011.

Since the evidence spanned more than 50 years, researchers were able to include in the analysis older antipsychotic drugs used to treat the condition, such as Haldol and Thorazine, and newer medications known as atypical antipsychotics, such as Abilify, Clozaril, Fazaclo, and Risperdal.��

The study is published online in The Lancet.
Weighing Risks and Benefits

Schizophrenia is a brain disorder that affects 2.4 million American adults, according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness, most often before the age of 30. Symptoms of this mental illness can include hallucinations, hearing voices, and/or having delusions.

Although the study shows the medications helped prevent relapse and, to some extent, improved the quality of life in people taking them, researchers also found evidence of their negative side effects.

Compared to people taking a placebo, those treated with antipsychotics were more likely to gain weight, have movement disorders, such as tremors or muscle spasms, and feel more sedated.�

Still, "we have established that antipsychotic maintenance treatment substantially reduces relapse risk in all patients with schizophrenia for up to two years of follow-up," the researchers write.

An editorial accompanying the research notes that the average follow-up time to evaluate relapse was 26 weeks. But it says this is "only a fraction of the time patients need support from services."

The editorial suggests this is possibly not long enough to observe other negative consequences from long-term use of antipsychotic drugs. It also says that scientists also need to understand why many patients with schizophrenia relapse even though they are sticking to their drug treatment regimen.


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People on significantly high dosages die earlier which lowers the relapse rate...too. :unsure:
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:34 AM

People also die earlier due to lifestyle influenced by symptoms of psychosis/schizophrenia.
Increased mortality isn't just about the drugs though that tends to get overlooked by the anti meds propagandists.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:40 AM

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People also die earlier due to lifestyle influenced by symptoms of psychosis/schizophrenia.
Reduced mortality isn't just about the drugs though that tends to get overlooked by the anti meds propagandists.


I'm not anti-meds...as I said significantly high dosages...there isn't a red under every bed you realise? :rolleyes:
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:52 AM

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I'm not anti-meds...as I said significantly high dosages...there isn't a red under every bed you realise? :rolleyes:



Even with such doses it can take many years before increased mortality occurs. If people live 15-20 years less and avoid relapse then they have done well in terms of avoiding relapse for that long. Accepting you sre not anti meds, it is still undoubtedly true that anti meds types push medication as the cause of reduced mortality while disingenuously ignoring other factors.

Like you I am pro the minimum dose required for a positive therapeutic effect. I think most sensible people, who are not rabidly anti meds,are.
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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:26 AM

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Even with such doses it can take many years before reduced mortality occurs. If people live 15-20 years less and avoid relapse then they have done well in terms of avoiding relapse for that long. Accepting you sre not anti meds, it is still undoubtedly true that anti meds types push medication as the cause of reduced mortality while disingenuously ignoring other factors.

Like you I am pro the minimum dose required for a positive therapeutic effect. I think most sensible people, who are not rabidly anti meds,are.


Having been on the recieving end of vindictive medical abuse and the chemical cosh I guess I'm a little bit over sensitive on the issue.
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Posted 13 May 2012 - 03:32 PM

Most of these studies are carried out by the pharmaceutical companies themselves. Biased much?

Also by placebo they mean people who once took anti-psychotics then were withdrawn from the drugs. In 11 studies this was abrupt withdrawl. And when it comes to supervised withdrawal it is sually a period of 3 weeks.

Advocates in the "harm redcution report" recommend much longer than 3 weeks. 3 weeks is nothing, if someone takes medication for a long time they need to take a long time to taper off it. For example, 2 years of medication should be taered for about 6 months.

Funny how psychiatrists don't acknowledge things like this, and things like chrnoic benzodiazapine withdrawal syndrome.
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