[Wolfwoman]

I have had depression and anxiety on and off for years and for the last nine months have been going for acumpture and massage sessions which has really helped me since then i have lost weight as the practitior said that the anxiety i felt was holding the weight on, i take better care of my appeareance and am out and about more and am able to concentrate more on what is in the shop rather than being anxious and also talking to more people. I still have my off days but feel alot more better. I also did some tai-chi for light exercise in the house which also made me feel more postive. Has anyone else tried these therapies and did they find them helpful? i previously went to see a counciller before i tried these therapies and it didnt help.

[ramboself]

I went to acupuncture today and it really helped, if i hadn't i'd have had to increase the pills 40 pounds, mind says they can do it cheaper but the womens an expert, annoying they won't pay for it

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Anything is better than talking therapies IMO. These councillors have a vested interest in loosenig bits like a dodgy garage mechanic. You are their trade afterall. They are also in the brainwashing trade with their 'think only about the present' CBT crap. He who forgets the past is gonna be under someones thumb. At least with the placebo effect of various alternative therapies you get what you pay for ie nothing but it feels good, and because you are happy to come back they try harder to make the surroundings pleasant with all the new age music and joss sticks and stuff.

[firemonkey]

ramboself, on 16 April 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

I went to acupuncture today and it really helped, if i hadn't i'd have had to increase the pills 40 pounds, mind says they can do it cheaper but the womens an expert, annoying they won't pay for it

http://www.thecochra...ns/CD005475.pdf

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We found insufficient evidence to recommend the use of acupuncture for people with schizophrenia. The numbers of participants and
the blinding of acupuncture were both inadequate, and more comprehensive and better designed studies are needed to determine the
effects of acupuncture for schizophrenia.

Yes, well I don't see how the quack can say anything either way myself in that case but the nuanced bias towards not recommending says a lot about the twisting of statistics by head quacks.

[ramboself]

they also sat psychotherapy doesn't work with schitzoprenia or dod umtil recently cbt. amyway one cpn said she had letters from 3 psychiatrists sating i wasn't schitzoprenic

anyway at my age i'm not looking for cure recovery, as long as the dwp doctvor doesn't caim acupunctue has cured me

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ramboself, on 17 April 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

they also sat psychotherapy doesn't work with schitzoprenia or dod umtil recently cbt. amyway one cpn said she had letters from 3 psychiatrists sating i wasn't schitzoprenic

anyway at my age i'm not looking for cure recovery, as long as the dwp doctvor doesn't caim acupunctue has cured me

You're not only cured you've got training as a puncture analyst.

[manic666]

where do they stick the needles for schizophrenia, i had tennis elbow an they stuck them in my arm an wired them to an electric alternator gaget , f***ing painful is was to. My arm looked like a hedgehog on speed, so where are the parts you get the needles punched for schizophenia , an for £40 do you get hand releaf at the end.

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manic666, on 17 April 2012 - 07:05 PM, said:

where do they stick the needles for schizophrenia, i had tennis elbow an they stuck them in my arm an wired them to an electric alternator gaget , f***ing painful is was to. My arm looked like a hedgehog on speed, so where are the parts you get the needles punched for schizophenia , an for £40 do you get hand releaf at the end.

only you would ask for extras manic

[ramboself]

in the feet hands and head, dr thinks it works because i am a catholic or was, dr says "he thinks he's done something terible and needs to be punished", i guess theres nothing like a good crucifiction

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ramboself, on 18 April 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

in the feet hands and head, dr thinks it works because i am a catholic or was, dr says "he thinks he's done something terible and needs to be punished", i guess theres nothing like a good crucifiction

The country is broke. Your asking a lot expecting crucifiction now. Best stick with the needles and be thankful you get them until the DWP withdraws support.

[ramboself]

i hope if it returns to the old roman system they'll be crucifieing everyone on lamposts all round the M25

Ever heard of St Dympna patron saint of nutters, she was a princess fled northumberland to belgium to get away from her mad father, he raised a fleet of ships went after her and beheaded her, she forgave him making her saint material

My parents took me to the church of St Dympna, all these men with long beards and women who were fat, they were belting out this hymn Dympna Dympna ale Dympna i didn't know what was going on

[manic666]

ramboself, on 18 April 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

i hope if it returns to the old roman system they'll be crucifieing everyone on lamposts all round the M25

Ever heard of St Dympna patron saint of nutters, she was a princess fled northumberland to belgium to get away from her mad father, he raised a fleet of ships went after her and beheaded her, she forgave him making her saint material

My parents took me to the church of St Dympna, all these men with long beards and women who were fat, they were belting out this hymn Dympna Dympna ale Dympna i didn't know what was going on

did she forgive him before or after he chopped her head off

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ramboself, on 18 April 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

i hope if it returns to the old roman system they'll be crucifieing everyone on lamposts all round the M25

Ever heard of St Dympna patron saint of nutters, she was a princess fled northumberland to belgium to get away from her mad father, he raised a fleet of ships went after her and beheaded her, she forgave him making her saint material

My parents took me to the church of St Dympna, all these men with long beards and women who were fat, they were belting out this hymn Dympna Dympna ale Dympna i didn't know what was going on

Looks like they were fighting fire with fire, the blind leading blind in those days? Lucky they didn't take you to Holland. They'd have made you a castrato over that way if you'd said anything about pricks.

[manic666]

You no whats been bugging me ???? SPARTICUS, i mean where the f*** did they find the wood for all those cross,s , there wasnt a tree for a thousand mile

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manic666, on 18 April 2012 - 08:12 PM, said:

You no whats been bugging me ???? SPARTICUS, i mean where the f*** did they find the wood for all those cross,s , there wasnt a tree for a thousand mile

Romans only used a cross when they wanted to crucify a Roman nobel. For common folk like jesus was meant to be they'd have used a single stake and they'd have used the same one over and over - to save on costs. Still there is no historic evidence he ever existed and the accounts, written decades after the sob story, don't gel. It's BS, but like Star Wars it has a bit of moral to it. Run, when everyone is calling you a friend....and run quick.

[toffee]

You guys make me laugh.
Actually there is good historical evidence he existed there just isn't evidence he was anything other than a normal human being who got himself crucified. Don't ask me for the references cos I can't be arsed to find them, but for some random reason I did a degree in the subject and remember there was good evidence he existed.

Not sure about accupuncture for schizophrenia but it really helped my slipped disc/ bad back where other treatments had not helped. Placebo or not it worked for me so I'm happy to get it free on the nhs at my gp surgery I have a good gp surgery. Though I don't think much of the dietician they have there. CAn't beleive how much they get paid to tell me to eat less and exercise more. I mean seriously why train someone for that.

[ramboself]

my acupuncturist used to come to my gps surgery though you had to pay. i've been seeing her ever since tryed for direct payments to pay for it, with advocate went all the way to parliamentary ombudsman

I'm quite worries i don't get personalisation because goverment policy seems to be give everyone a basic amount and needy people get personalisation, beginning to look like i don't count as needy

Went into christian bookshop asked for copy of copplestone's life of the saints, i was hoping to read about these saints who heard voices and the various waays they were martyred, guess the bookshop was too fundamentalist

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ramboself, on 19 April 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

my acupuncturist used to come to my gps surgery though you had to pay. i've been seeing her ever since tryed for direct payments to pay for it, with advocate went all the way to parliamentary ombudsman

I'm quite worries i don't get personalisation because goverment policy seems to be give everyone a basic amount and needy people get personalisation, beginning to look like i don't count as needy

Went into christian bookshop asked for copy of copplestone's life of the saints, i was hoping to read about these saints who heard voices and the various waays they were martyred, guess the bookshop was too fundamentalist

There are limited resources and they need focussing on the next pointless war.

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toffee, on 19 April 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

You guys make me laugh.
Actually there is good historical evidence he existed there just isn't evidence he was anything other than a normal human being who got himself crucified. Don't ask me for the references cos I can't be arsed to find them, but for some random reason I did a degree in the subject and remember there was good evidence he existed.

Not sure about accupuncture for schizophrenia but it really helped my slipped disc/ bad back where other treatments had not helped. Placebo or not it worked for me so I'm happy to get it free on the nhs at my gp surgery I have a good gp surgery. Though I don't think much of the dietician they have there. CAn't beleive how much they get paid to tell me to eat less and exercise more. I mean seriously why train someone for that.

did santa claus exist or robin hood ????????