[dee24]

his speech has changed over the last few weeks talking as if holding his tounge in a different position though conversation is ok does not take medication for schizophrenia for over 1 year now why would this happen....

[manic666]

dee24, on 19 February 2012 - 10:38 PM, said:

his speech has changed over the last few weeks talking as if holding his tounge in a different position though conversation is ok does not take medication for schizophrenia for over 1 year now why would this happen....

mabye a relaspe is underlying , keep a close eye on his behavour

[Ellie - Rethink]

Do you have a professional you can ask, like GP/ CPN or something?

[dee24]

He doesnt want meds been on them before so now over 1 year with out ,hes doing a 3 month course 2 evenings a week 2hrs each course,goes to a reading group one hr per week, reads out loud poetry etc.....

talks constantly to himself when alone in his room or bath etc, (though cant make out what hes saying) drinks alchol to help him so he says... not harming anyone really so why should we persuade him to take meds??? hope fully there are other ways through this? its so difficult to know what to do for the best i used to think meds was the answer but dont know any more.......? what should we do..

[manic666]

well you dont think meds are the answer , so what can we say we are not doctors, He sounds ill to me a medication is what you get for any illness, its just if he wont take it the answer is in his hands,

[Universal Credit]

Could be something physical if his speech has changed. Alchohol and smoking is linked to mouth cancer/ulcers. Might be a idea for a physical examination?

[manic666]

Spartikus Rex, on 22 February 2012 - 09:51 PM, said:

Could be something physical if his speech has changed. Alchohol and smoking is linked to mouth cancer/ulcers. Might be a idea for a physical examination?

rex you no your speech changes in depression if deep enough, you slur your words like a drunk, you brain carnt work your speech .It fighting the depression monster an slowed right down. When i try to talk in depression im always asked, are you drunk.

[Universal Credit]

If it was a drunken or morose slur she'd have noticed? Rather...'as if holding his tounge in a different position though conversation....' indicative of a obstruction of somekind? You can only go on the info...given though, we are not medical specialists.

[manic666]

Spartikus Rex, on 23 February 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

If it was a drunken or morose slur she'd have noticed? Rather...'as if holding his tounge in a different position though conversation....' indicative of a obstruction of somekind? You can only go on the info...given though, we are not medical specialists.

his speech has changed over the last few weeks talking as if holding his tounge in a different position though conversation is ok does not take medication for schizophrenia for over 1 year now why would this happen....
THE lady says he talks like he is holding his tounge , she dont say he is holding it its a mentifor

[Universal Credit]

manic666, on 23 February 2012 - 09:32 AM, said:

his speech has changed over the last few weeks talking as if holding his tounge in a different position though conversation is ok does not take medication for schizophrenia for over 1 year now why would this happen....
THE lady says he talks like he is holding his tounge , she dont say he is holding it its a mentifor

We need a recording of his voice before and after so we can compare and know what we're dealing with here?

[dee24]

thank you all so much for replies have mentioned to him many times to go to GP he wont hes still in denial after all this time that he has any mental health issues....so all we can do as a family is support him.. no reason for sectioning him....hes just miles away in his own world is that a reason to section some one ....

was on this web site quite a while ago and then most people were against meds advising us to get him off them and to alternatives, he was doing football then but thats stopped, he likes to go to mindfull classes too, when he gets drunk then he does start swearing and not making sence.. i just sit through and listen just be there...i will check today if its a slur or holding tounge in different place....

and im going to have to force him to GP i try not to keep saying to him you have MH issues too often.. or shall i just be straight to the point ..afraid of him getting stressed more...+ he doesnt talk about it to anyone only when drunk he talks a bit about it......

[manic666]

dee24, on 23 February 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

thank you all so much for replies have mentioned to him many times to go to GP he wont hes still in denial after all this time that he has any mental health issues....so all we can do as a family is support him.. no reason for sectioning him....hes just miles away in his own world is that a reason to section some one ....

was on this web site quite a while ago and then most people were against meds advising us to get him off them and to alternatives, he was doing football then but thats stopped, he likes to go to mindfull classes too, when he gets drunk then he does start swearing and not making sence.. i just sit through and listen just be there...i will check today if its a slur or holding tounge in different place....

and im going to have to force him to GP i try not to keep saying to him you have MH issues too often.. or shall i just be straight to the point ..afraid of him getting stressed more...+ he doesnt talk about it to anyone only when drunk he talks a bit about it......

The people who were against meds ,were on the hole like your brother,,Nobody want,s to take meds but for some of us is our only choise. were can live a %70 life on meds or be as mad as a frog an take none. They are looking for someone or something to blaim for there illness, an meds because of side effects gets the most abuse.To take meds is to admit your ill but sadly some people never except it

[ramboself]

My frfiend was told by a psychiatrist the crisis can come up to 3yrs after coming off meds, i think rethink used to say 6 months to a year depending on the level of stress

Most off meds types are in what one friend calls the honeymoon period were you feel better than ever

Quoting friends a lot

[Universal Credit]

There's a lot of different meds out there and some are worse than others and it all depends on metabolism, trial and error, to get the best med at the optimum dosage to give a reasonable quality of life. There is no chart. They don't really know what their doing - just guesswork...things are good if they get it right, bad if they get it wrong or are shipman like vindactive types.

[manic666]

Spartikus Rex, on 23 February 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

There's a lot of different meds out there and some are worse than others and it all depends on metabolism, trial and error, to get the best med at the optimum dosage to give a reasonable quality of life. There is no chart. They don't really know what their doing - just guesswork...things are good if they get it right, bad if they get it wrong or are shipman like vindactive types.

Very true, thats why i researched meds, I ask the shrinks if i can use a med i want , an most of the time they say yes. The reason being they got it wrong so many times before ,to the point of near on killing me with bad choise,s . An yes 50mg of a med may be great to one patient , but another may need 200mg for the same illness

[dee24]

hi again yes he was also on a few different meds in the very begining he went along with them and took them, but he was living in shared flat then though had his own room and he suddenly stopped them then always refusing and in and out of hospital and a lot of skunk smoking ..then into supported housing living with a lot of trouble makers coming to house shark loans drugs etc back to hospital on meds off meds....

eventualy not allowd to leave hospital unless accepted injections which he did as was desperate to get out of ther 1st lot he slept too much 2nd lot we did see some difference for the better though he continued to drink alchol and smoke weed......so in the end we couldnt see difference...

since then he no longer smokes weed but chooses not to take meds.....cant sleep at night often untill 5am morning so cant do things during day...has come to live at family home out of choice he likes the company. have tryed to get him to consider meds or maybe sleeping tablet, then now this with his speech starting he says he will go to GP next week

with this illness very hard to know whats right as no one really knows ...been reading things from "rufas may" and makes you think it can be done but.... well i dont know any more the right path for this..maybe as a family we can encourage him to try the meds again or he may go further and further into his own world ... this talking to yourself do you all do this? when he alone he does it all the time ,,,,could this get worse and happen all the time .....

[Universal Credit]

My wife talks to herself and she's the sane one here?

[dee24]

hi
he went to GP yesterday he says nothing at moment after looking in his mouth ,,,,but to keep an eye on it ....?? and that he doesnt notice any difference in his speech as he saw him 4weeks ago i had to disagree with him maybe he didnt want to stress him out about it ....had to go with him as he didnt want to go to GP as doesnt think any thing wrong with his speech......speech still slured what would you do .........

[mias]

Spartikus Rex, on 24 February 2012 - 09:17 AM, said:

My wife talks to herself and she's the sane one here?

I think everyone talks to themselves to a certain degree, well I do anyway. I even talk outloud to my brother and he is not with us anymore. But I believe this is different to someone really talking outloud to themself all of the time or when in company or out and about.

Mind you, with people walking about with their mobile phone earpiece in chatting away, no one is really going to notice these days.

[mias]

dee24, on 28 February 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

hi
he went to GP yesterday he says nothing at moment after looking in his mouth ,,,,but to keep an eye on it ....?? and that he doesnt notice any difference in his speech as he saw him 4weeks ago i had to disagree with him maybe he didnt want to stress him out about it ....had to go with him as he didnt want to go to GP as doesnt think any thing wrong with his speech......speech still slured what would you do .........

But you have been keeping your eye on it, since you mentioned it a little while ago.

I hope the GP will give this some thought. He really hasn't put your mind at rest has he just saying 'keep your eye on it'. Sorry, but it seems a bit of a cop out.

Hopefully you will get some answers here.

You say what would I do. I wouldn't leave it. Possibly go back and say you are very worried or that you would like a second opinion.

Have you looked up this symptom online at all yourself? I know we are not supposed to do that but I do.

Sorry, I don't think I was much help at all.