[Able Scribe]

Nostalgea for Summer!

[CaptSpaceBat]

A real-life gallery, or an extension of the one at http://www.rethink.o...opic/94-gallery ? I am working on a plan to have an exhibition, hopefully ongoing, also available online where we can display - and optionally sell - our creations …

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Somekind of recognised 'Outsider Art' brand linked to the blue dot might make it commercially viable? It may be ironic to use the concept of outsider art to sell art? In this area people do like the imperfections of the amateur and are willing to pay good prices for the authentic? It'd still be outsider art if you consider how elitist the 'industry' is at its top end. Might help with the lost benefits for us folks? and the lost funding for Rethink? Could have a scuplture area too?

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Although the conflation of artisitc genius and madness may be a myth just as much as any other, it is a good myth. Much easier to change attitudes by amplififcation of a good misunderstanding than trying to directly confront a bad one? And with so many sufferers turning to art as a recreation there must be plety of good stuff about?

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Spartikus Rex, on 14 January 2012 - 05:40 AM, said:

Somekind of recognised 'Outsider Art' brand linked to the blue dot might make it commercially viable? It may be ironic to use the concept of outsider art to sell art? In this area people do like the imperfections of the amateur and are willing to pay good prices for the authentic? It'd still be outsider art if you consider how elitist the 'industry' is at its top end. Might help with the lost benefits for us folks? and the lost funding for Rethink? Could have a scuplture area too?

The term "Outsider Art" possibly has been used too widely, best describing 19th and early to mid-20th century works and artists. The term "Emergent Art" may be more fitting, rather than Pre-, Post-, or even Neo-Outsider. To catch the zephyrs of the zeitgeist, there's even "The Big Art" …

Getting it all online is the comparatively easy part; finding an accessible venue to display works - including sculpture - a bit trickier …

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CaptSpaceBat, on 14 January 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

The term "Outsider Art" possibly has been used too widely, best describing 19th and early to mid-20th century works and artists. The term "Emergent Art" may be more fitting, rather than Pre-, Post-, or even Neo-Outsider. To catch the zephyrs of the zeitgeist, there's even "The Big Art" …

Getting it all online is the comparatively easy part; finding an accessible venue to display works - including sculpture - a bit trickier …

A lot of shops are going broke at present and the newly built shopping precints will be scared stiff of empty shops detering people from renting their shops, which can easily be £40,000 a year upwards apparently. The worry about a collapsed rental sector must mean they'll be more than happy for anything that'll bring shopppers in? and stop shops looking vacant? In this there are serious prospects for getting expensive footfall for free, for a charity with a vibe?

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Spartikus Rex, on 14 January 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

A lot of shops are going broke at present and the newly built shopping precints will be scared stiff of empty shops detering people from renting their shops, which can easily be £40,000 a year upwards apparently. The worry about a collapsed rental sector must mean they'll be more than happy for anything that'll bring shopppers in? and stop shops looking vacant? In this there are serious prospects for getting expensive footfall for free, for a charity with a vibe?

That's a very good point, which I shall explore further - bits of Wimbledon (for example) are starting to look decidedly barren …
Another difficulty is trying to convince people that it's safe to own a piece of art that nobody else has - perhaps having reproductions of the works made available might be a way around that?

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CaptSpaceBat, on 14 January 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

That's a very good point, which I shall explore further - bits of Wimbledon (for example) are starting to look decidedly barren …
Another difficulty is trying to convince people that it's safe to own a piece of art that nobody else has - perhaps having reproductions of the works made available might be a way around that?

Is that Hockeney pushing the authentic message at the mo? It'd be great to get him, or someone with standing, to say something in support? and provide advice on marketing limited runs?

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Spartikus Rex, on 14 January 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

Is that Hockeney pushing the authentic message at the mo? It'd be great to get him, or someone with standing, to say something in support? and provide advice on marketing limited runs?

I'm looking at a few leading lights in this regard, as well as for providing space …

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Spartikus Rex, on 14 January 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

Is that Hockeney pushing the authentic message at the mo? It'd be great to get him, or someone with standing, to say something in support? and provide advice on marketing limited runs?

There is an interview from the Guardian at http://apps.facebook...ney-life-in-art

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"For 500 years the church had social control because it was the main supplier of images. You can point to Darwin, but social control moved with the control of images in the early 19th century to what we now call the media: newspapers, then Hollywood and television. There is now another revolution and the images are moving to individuals. Mr Murdoch will lose his power just as the church did. It might cause terrible chaos. What happens when authority leaves? We don't know. But we do know that nothing is for ever. Even though I'm hidden away in Bridlington, which I like a lot because it is hard for people to drop in and you can get a lot of work done, I can watch it all."

Much how I see it in that. We are on the cusp of a revolution in human relations so fundamental that it could destroy civilization itself, or usher in one of the greatest periods of social progress since The Enlightenment. Impossible to say which from here although the turbulance of coming grand historical change is all about now. I think he's chosen a wise location to watch the drama unfold from?

[mias]

" Much easier to change attitudes by amplififcation of a good misunderstanding than trying to directly confront a bad one? "Yes.

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CaptSpaceBat, on 13 January 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

A real-life gallery, or an extension of the one at http://www.rethink.o...opic/94-gallery ? I am working on a plan to have an exhibition, hopefully ongoing, also available online where we can display - and optionally sell - our creations …

Sounds Great Captain! I could sell some disks of the slide sequence maybe or do a display on the wall?

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mias, on 15 January 2012 - 10:21 AM, said:

" Much easier to change attitudes by amplififcation of a good misunderstanding than trying to directly confront a bad one? "Yes.

Let's just Dazzle 'em with sheer Genius - then they forget about trying to discriminate against us - Hopefully...

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Able Scribe, on 22 January 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

Let's just Dazzle 'em with sheer Genius - then they forget about trying to discriminate against us - Hopefully...

I'll see what I can do. I'm working on a new project with my graphics. Hush! hush! it's gonna be original if nothing else.