[Spartikus Rex]

Notice that BBC NEWs have a article on the frontpage of their website entitled 'Night of madness' with some burning buildings imagery. About the summer riots. How many people with Mental Health issues actually took part? I didn't and it seems the looters were estabalished criminals with a far from 'mindless' agenda.

[I am an Aardvark]

[toffee]

I'm not sure I would see this as stigma. I think some other poster on here (but it may have been another forum) pointed out that words can have more than one meaning or context in English. For instance, debt in the UK has been described as a 'cancer'. Irrational, impulsive, chaotic and violent is one of the ways of using the term 'madness'. So I don't have a problem with 'night of madness' as a description of the riots. I might feel differently if they had called it 'Night of the Psychotics'

[Spartikus Rex]

toffee, on 24 October 2011 - 05:25 PM, said:

I'm not sure I would see this as stigma. I think some other poster on here (but it may have been another forum) pointed out that words can have more than one meaning or context in English. For instance, debt in the UK has been described as a 'cancer'. Irrational, impulsive, chaotic and violent is one of the ways of using the term 'madness'. So I don't have a problem with 'night of madness' as a description of the riots. I might feel differently if they had called it 'Night of the Psychotics'

Maybe if they renamed exponential growth as straightforward cancer I'd agree.

[Spartikus Rex]

Start describing economic growth in terms of a tumour and I'll let the powers that be off mis-using the term madness as a signifier for mental illness. Won't happen will it?

[manic666]

i went to see a night of madness , pretty good they were to , welcome to the house of fun.??????????????? I SINGLE ACT OF MADNESS DONT MAKE YOU MENTALLY ILL ., that newspaper statment ment nothing, your reading to much into things

[BipolarJ]

The quality or state of being mad: as
a : rage
b : insanity
c : extreme folly
d : ecstasy, enthusiasm

Definition here.

Madness is a generic term, it doesn't necessarily relate to mental illness.

Case closed.

[McDoodils87]

BipolarJ, on 25 January 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

The quality or state of being mad: as
a : rage
b : insanity
c : extreme folly
d : ecstasy, enthusiasm

Definition here.

Madness is a generic term, it doesn't necessarily relate to mental illness.

Case closed.

Agree with BipolarJ, personally I think people nowadays are to sensitive & dwell on things (mostly insignificant) to much. The key is the context in which it was said it's all about the context. A good example is the recent racism row between Patrice Evra & Suarez. His excuse was the language barrier, that "Negredo" wasn't offensive. Which it clearly was, they were having an argument. He wasn't saying "lets me friends negredo" he said something like " because your a negredo" in response to Evra's question "why did you tackle like that" now that's discrimination & the wrong context. Plus madness is a generic term, does it upset you that a band are call madness?

[Spartikus Rex]

Except the social context does matter a lot with certain words. This is not a neutral expression but clearly and obviously conflates meanings that are to the detriment of people like us. The dictionary is not written in stone and word meanings can be changed for the benefit of all. It is called evolution or progress or something and firstly requires a raising of consciousness....

[manic666]

i count myself has damaged, but saying that i have done a lot of thinks in my life i would say were sheer madness.. O an the football crap thing , i remember when bastard was the worst thing to say to anyone, implying you were a farther less piece of sh** . Now you can say it in friendly terms, like hello you old bastard ,an nobody bat,s an eyelid. At one time black people didnt want to be called black, they wanted coloured, now they dont like coloured they want to be black, to solve this race problem why dont a black player call back you white prick , when called a black one, the white guy wont take that has an ultimate insult, he aready take bastared as a joke

[Spartikus Rex]

manic666, on 22 February 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

i count myself has damaged, but saying that i have done a lot of thinks in my life i would say were sheer madness.. O an the football crap thing , i remember when bastard was the worst thing to say to anyone, implying you were a farther less piece of sh** . Now you can say it in friendly terms, like hello you old bastard ,an nobody bat,s an eyelid. At one time black people didnt want to be called black, they wanted coloured, now they dont like coloured they want to be black, to solve this race problem why dont a black player call back you white prick , when called a black one, the white guy wont take that has an ultimate insult, he aready take bastared as a joke

It's a moving target but that's why we don't speak pan-indo-european like they did in the stone age I guess?