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The New NHS - What It Means For Us Live chat with Rethink policy specialist from 12.30 on Thursday 25 Nov

#41 User is offline   I am an Aardvark 

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 12:15 AM

View PostArj Subanandan, on 25 November 2010 - 03:22 PM, said:

I have a personal interest in this. When I get psychotic I can't use services. I have to survive alone. The things that happen to me during these periods are horrific. But I refuse to be sectioned again. I refuse to have my right to choice taken away as well as my liberty. UK policy seems focused on more coercion, not less. They're focused on cheap outcomes - this means antipsychotics (which aren't really antipsychotics because they don't really treat the internal experience. They just sedate the person.).

And don't even get me started on dual diagnosis patients. We're fucked. No charity lobbies for us. No one reads the strategy from 2002 and in my experience it's certainly being put into place. We suffer that extraordinarily powerful and untackled stigma: we do it to ourselves. An anorexic with depression is ok but a depressive who becomes an alcohol isn't. Heck - even Time to Change didn't touch dual diagnosis with a barge pole. In fact the stigma is often foisted onto this group of the mentally ill. I very much doubt that the situation will get much better except for the fact that alcohlism is high in GPs. Perhaps that's a sliver of hope that some of them may understand just how hard it is.

Anyway, best of luck. Fight the good fight.


The last 3 psychotic episodes were horrific for me too - & I went through them all with zero contact with services as well for similar reasons. I agree with what you say about smoking, dual diagnosis, recovery & everything else.

My GP is useless - I've stopped seeing them.

I think that all the people responsible in any way for MH services in this country should be very deeply ashamed.

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 11:46 AM

View PostSpiraloutatheGame, on 26 November 2010 - 12:15 AM, said:

The last 3 psychotic episodes were horrific for me too - & I went through them all with zero contact with services as well for similar reasons. I agree with what you say about smoking, dual diagnosis, recovery & everything else.

My GP is useless - I've stopped seeing them.

I think that all the people responsible in any way for MH services in this country should be very deeply ashamed.


Same here actually. I define myself as a service avoider again now. It's so damn hard though.

Yes. There are a lot of people working in mental health that really need to get their sh*t together. It's frustrating. There's so much more that needs to be done. I always bang on about lived experience but it's this that informs anyone more than anything else. More than degrees, more than policy reports and more than being a doctor.
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Posted 29 November 2010 - 08:37 PM

my gp i'm dissasified with but as i said to him last time, better the devil you know, if i change him the psychiatrist has closed my case so any new dr will have no direct experience of psychiatrists letters and im worrrried about the benefit claim

GP Commisssioning, it'll be what his admin staff are used to, i'm such a weirdo i won't fit the forms
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 05:10 AM

View PostChris - Rethink, on 10 November 2010 - 10:03 AM, said:

Is everyone clear on what's planned, or does any of it seem confusing or unclear?



I don't get it.
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Posted 08 December 2010 - 01:59 PM

View Postethan, on 08 December 2010 - 05:10 AM, said:

I don't get it.

Hi Ethan - have you read the whole thread? Have a quick look through what's been discussed and let me know any questions you still have, and I will pass them on.

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 01:12 PM

This is what the new NHS means for us -



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Posted 21 December 2010 - 05:27 PM

NHS not health service.
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Posted 17 January 2011 - 04:07 PM

I'm aware that primary care trusts are being abolished under the nasty party, does anyone know what is going to happen to secondary health care, or is that staying as it is?
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Posted 08 February 2011 - 04:15 PM

Private Health service on it's way.

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