Good To Talk?

Topics: Siblings, Health professionals, Medication and therapies

I have been finding it hard to know what to write about.  Things are fairly calm, for me anyway, but unfortunately my brother is still very unwell and still detained under a section. 

He actually seems quite happy at the moment though but I think that he is still very psychotic and delusional.  He has stopped trying to escape from the ward and he is not getting as angry with the staff, he just seems to be very accepting of his position.  I am torn about this situation.  I am glad that he isn’t angry and upset all the time but I really worry that the ward staff are giving him too much medication to keep him controllable for their sakes.  I also feel guilty because while he is like this we all get a sort of respite from all the drama and incidents. 

It’s funny really because my mom and I seem to almost ride the waves of his illness with him.  When he is worked up, we all get pulled along.  We too get anxious, angry and upset. When he is just accepting and calm, like now, we get really sad and feel we need to protect him. I have also been feeling less fired up and I think that has been part of the reason why I haven’t written the blog sooner, I have been trying to ignore some of the things that have been going on, having a sort of emotional break.

Luckily (I think), I still have my moments.  I have been pressing forward with the complaint.  I did get a response to my letter, I am afraid though their first “standard response” sparked a second letter.  I wonder sometimes if the staff think that I am the one that should be on the ward!!.  I felt that they were trying to use confidentiality as a barrier.  The usual “if you want to investigate yours brother’s individual case he will have to give consent or we will not be able to take the matter any further …”.  I really do respect confidentiality and I really think that it is important to protect people, but it was such a closed statement.  I honestly don’t think that it would be appropriate at the moment for me to try to get my brother to sign something asking for his permission to investigate these incidents. He would either sign because he would imagine it would lead to his instant discharge, or he wouldn’t sign because he would not want anyone to make it harder for him to “escape”.  Maybe I am wrong, I don’t know, but I asked them to reconsider their standard response and think about their process.  Not sure if anyone else has any views on this or has had experience around this issue?

Anyway, they are doing a general investigation into the things that I raised and I am expecting a response any day.  They are a bit late, they promised me a response within 25 days, but I will give them another week and then muster the energy to write again. I’ll let you know what happens.

As to the care he is receiving on the ward, I think I must be way too critical.  I really worry about the standard of care and it seems such obvious and sometimes really small things that make all the difference.  They way the staff talk to him, and us for that matter, their attitudes seem to close the communication rather than open it up.  The lack of interaction between the staff and the people on the ward and just a general feeling that the staff have given up, there seems to be little imagination on their parts. 

An example of this was my suggestion in one of his ward rounds that I thought Paul would value from some regular, protected time, where a member of staff just listens to him and talks with him.  Say an hour a day or every other day.  I tried to explain why I thought this.  One day when I was visiting Paul he had been talking at me non-stop for about 10 minutes, most of the things he said weren’t true or were very unrealistic, but unless he actually challenged me to say that I believed them, I just let him talk.  However at one point I had to ask him to stop, just for a minute, because I was feeling overwhelmed by it all.  He looked at me calmly and said “OK”.  He paused and then he said “it’s just that I think it helps me to get it off my chest”.  I looked at him, and I smiled and told him to go for it, I was glad to listen. It was like a moment of clarity.   

Anyway I find that this approach really seems to help me now when I visit him.  We spend sometime just talking about general things, then sometimes he just gets things off his chest.  We get on so much better and he doesn’t hate me anymore.  I get less worked up and worried about the things he is saying and he gets less worked up because I’m listening and not contradicting all the time.  I told the care team this in a ward round and I suggested that they dedicated some time to just listen and talk to Paul on a regular basis.  Although one nurse said she thought it was a great idea, the rest of the team just looked at each other and said they didn’t think it was possible.  It is so hard to believe that the staff can not make time to do this.  Paul is spending 24 hours, 7 days a week confined to the ward and they do not think that sparing a few hours a week to listen and talk to their patients is worth doing.

I will be bringing it up again next week, but this time I am going to try to arm myself with evidence.  I am off now to try to find some best-practice guidance and look at some information about the Star Wards programme.  Perhaps this will make the reconsider, not just for Paul, but for all the other people on their wards as well.

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1. At 09:27 AM on 02 May 2009 Freddie Scrace wrote:

Psycosis

I was placed in a mental illness hospital for 45 days. Volonteerly. I still feel bad but your charity helped me and others so thank you
2. At 11:58 PM on 16 April 2009 chris wrote:

Hello Laura

Hi Laura. I am so sorry to here about your brother. I know tht it's hard for releitives and love ones to see a patient in a psychatric hospital. I have psycosis and was voluntry placeed in a unit in Birmingham. I must sya that the treatment for staff was a very good. They treated me like a person not a number. They were there for me and listed to my problems. They asked me my opions on my CPA(Care Programme Approch) They even made my family,freinds etc very welcome when they visted. on a negative note,.before I was admitted to a unit I was assesed many times by Home Treatment who keeped seending diffrent people everytime to assess me They asked stupid non relevent questions and then woundered why I get mad and angry. And if your in a crisis. they say it might take 3 days before your seen and assessesd. Well what happens if your feelind down and might harm yourself? The possitive thing is that I want to become a mental health nurse. I think it's important to try and change the system in a possitve manner and provide a service around patients, carers, and family members. I wish you good luck and keep strong!
3. At 10:08 PM on 11 April 2009 Andra wrote:

Paul

Hello Laura, My son was in the hospital many times here in San Francisco. The law here also does not let staff speak to family without permission, but they have nothing against listening, which can help with their understanding and treatment decisions. Also, while listening, they often insert a few comments as to how the patient is doing. As to having an hour a day to talk to the patient, maybe they really don't have time, as they are probably understaffed. If it's a good hospital or live-in program, they probably have at least some time daily. I found my own interaction with my son to be very beneficial to him. While on medication, he was dull and not himself, but at least he was not psycotic or difficult to communicate with. The fact that you realize he is just venting most of the time is very good. You can talk about everything when he is done, and go over how he felt at times and how you felt. You can ask why he did some of the things he did, and you can make sure he understands your actions, too. Since we know the family member better than any professional, we are in a very good position to help.
4. At 06:44 PM on 31 March 2009 Laura wrote:

Thanks

Hello Tania, Thank you for your words of encouragement, it really means a lot to me. I wish you every success with your programme and I am so glad you have had the courage and determination to keep going even though you feel isolated. I am sure that the carers that you are supporting will appreciate the time and effort that you are putting in. I can't tell you how often it feels that those who care for people suffering with mental illness feel insignificant and ignored by the professionals. Also I think it is really great that you are at least trying to get your information about what carers might need from sources such as this site – so well done for thinking so broadly about what information might be out there. Take care and thank you. Laura
5. At 05:30 AM on 31 March 2009 tania wrote:

thanks for writing!

Dear Laura, Thank you sooo much for writing. I am a counsellor from HK and I am now starting a support programmes for carers. Because with a lack of support, I feel so lost and lonely stimes in running this programme. Thank you very much for writing. It gives me some insights to what family members and clients need. Thanks. Tania

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